Friday, December 11, 2009

Abdul Khan - In His Own Words



Who's telling the truth?

The allegations made by Abdul Khan against the City of Hamilton (see document here) , alleging serious wrongdoings has thrown Mr. Khan into the spotlight. Is he a hero who simply did his duty as a responsible public servant b Mr. Khan was kind enough to agree to an interview in The Hamiltonian. His answers to my questions are posted verbatim. In the interests of fairness, any representative from the City of Hamilton, is also invited to an interview in The Hamiltonian to discuss these issues. They need only contact us.
 y reporting alleged abuse of public funds, gross misconduct on the part of some city staff, and potential endangerment to the public.  Or is he a scorned former employee who is lashing out? These questions are better left to an independent investigation. The Hamiltonian is not presupposing anything in this matter.


Although I have not called this 10 Tough Questions, you will note that Abdul had no problem answering some very sensitive questions I put to him. Please join me in welcoming Abdul Khan to The Hamiltonian.

1. What motivated you to file your complaint against the City Of Hamilton? What did you want to achieve?


I strongly believe in the Public's Right to Know of things that impact them. There is a culture in some sections of the Water and Wastewater Division, where they believe that they can make better decisions for the public rather than the public itself and I had fundamental problems with that. I first held myself and then my colleagues accountable to the public by virtue of being 'public servants'.

My main concerns and issues were primarily related to selective disclosure of issues to public and council. When a phenomenal city like Hamilton places its trust in you for expertise and advise and and views the entire team as its sentinel, then how could I just walk away from it, even if I was selectively discarded? I didn't intend to create problems for anyone, and even after being treated so badly, I still opted to follow a proper chain of command, by first discussing the issues with the City Manager. I gave time for the process to unfold, hoping that the City Manager would take appropriate action. After nothing happened, I placed my requests to the city clerk to personally present the issues and matters to the council, but I wasn't accorded that opportunity. By this time, I had moved to my new job, away from Hamilton, away from Ontario, yet my conscience was in a state of limbo, and would stay that way, until I felt that the public was disclosed everything. dispatching my email was the last resort that I had hope would be effective.

Related your question that what I wanted to achieve with it. I think that I have fully achieved what I set out to - the disclosure of the information to public. Nothing more what so ever. Not for a single moment, I had any kind of grudge against anyone. I firmly believe that people have the right to know about things that impacts them.

I thank you all - the councilors, the media, the civil society, the activists, and all citizens who disseminated the information. You people gave me all that I wanted. I have full faith that the decision of the council would be in the best interest of the community.

2. Some may say think that this is a retaliatory measure in response to the termination of your employment with the City of Hamilton. How do you respond to that?

I would request to everyone to please don't make it my issue, but rather make it a community issue. In my letter, I have stated few facts and based on those facts, I have presented few opinions. I would request all to pursue the truth behind those facts objectively. Once that is established, then confer any title upon me. It is correct that some would attack my objectives and my personality and hence, hinder the pursuit to truth. But those some are only in tiny numbers - the people I stood for are in hundreds of thousands and will for sure make it a 'community' issue.

3. Has your complaint had an effect on your present employment, or in your local community. If so, how so?

Surprisingly, the news came here on the same day, and got extensive media coverage. I wish to say that I am extremely proud of the exceptionally supportive community of Medicine Hat; Everyone valued the fact that I stood for the people - after all as 'public servants' that is what we are here for. Mayor Boucher, many elected representatives and my colleagues graciously displayed their appreciation for my principled stand, conviction and beliefs.

4. What was the reaction when you made your concerns known to your superiors?
5.After making your concerns known, were you treated any differently than prior to having expressed your concerns? If so, how so?

(Answer to both 4 &5), Mildly put, I was treated like a pariah. There was much hostility - written and verbal. There was professional indignity by asking junior staff to chair the meetings that I would be attending. My advice was discounted and scoffed at. I was shunned out and bypassed of matters related to my sections. I would like to leave it here.

6. What was your job performance like prior to your complaint? Was your performance assessed, when was it assessed, and was the assessment positive? Please describe.

The last performance assessment was in 2007, for 2006 and was rated excellent. I used to get very positive feedback from the previous General Manager, Mr Scott Stewart. He is a thorough gentleman who held himself to very high ethical and professional standards and expected the staff to do likewise. I am confident that had he been in the system, things would have been positively different.

7. There are some very serious allegations that you have made, on multiple fronts. Do you stand by each and every one of them. Are there any changes you would like to make to your complaint?

I stand by each and every fact in my correspondence and look forward to the auditing and investigation committed to by the council. If proven wrong, I commit to publicly and unconditionally apologize to the community, the council, staff and everyone else impacted by this.

8. What do you think the right thing to do would be? How would you like the city to respond?

I leave everything for the discretion of the members of the council, and the community behind them. The council's approach is excellent. The Spectator's editorial of yesterday put it aptly - Investigate, don't Assume.

I hear much about head rolling and I don't subscribe to this approach. Such response deals with the symptoms and not the underlying root causes that ought to be looked at. The need here is to understand why and how it happened and what can be done to prevent it in future, by undertaking a thorough organizational and institutional review and develop a process of checks and balances. I also fully appreciate the 'Whistle Blower Protection Bylaw', recently approved by the Council.

9. The issues you raised were briefly responded to on live coverage of city council on Wednesday December 9th, 2009, after council voted to allow for city staff to respond. What is your reaction to that?

I wasn't surprised by the comments. However, out of respect for the City Manager Position, I shall only say that I was 'disappointed' by Mr. Murray's assertion that he was unaware and that I had not intimated the issues and matters to him. In March/April 09, I briefly discussed with him the issues that I was facing. In May 09, I requested him for an appointment. His assistant scheduled a meeting on June 8. On June 5, the meeting was canceled and rescheduled for June 16. On the morning of June 9, I was fired and I have no doubt that it was with his approval. I was a Director with the City and if the termination was not with his approval, then there are other serious governance and leadership issues and whether the question becomes who is managing the organization.

On June 16, I showed up at his office and his assistant came out and apologetically advised me that the meeting was canceled as I was no more employed by the City. I felt very disappointed. There were few City staffers / former colleagues in the corridor in front of the main reception who stopped by to express their sorrow and to wish me well for the future. In the meantime, Mr Murray was heading back to his office and I stopped him in the main reception area and talked with him for almost an hour with many City staffers passing by and watching us engaged in discussions.

I leave it to the community to judge and guess what we would have talked about? A disgracefully fired employee, who believed that he was unfairly treated, would not chat about pleasantries, hockey and weather a week later with the person who had authorized his firing!

10. Is there anything else you would like The Mayor, the City Manager, Hamilton City Council, or all Hamiltonians to know?

I thank you for allowing me to serve the City for 4 years and I assure you that I served you all with utmost sincerity. I had the privilege of working with some very hardworking, well meaning employees and colleagues. I have faith in the council and the citizens of Hamilton and am confident that they will make the right decision for the community - for their generation and the next.

Today, I was notified of an intention of libel. Prior to reporting the issues to the Council, I foresaw that possibility, contemplated the hardships, and yet chose to disclose all issues of concern as materially as I could. I have implicit faith in democracy, freedom of press and the Canadian justice system and have no doubt that truth and fairness will prevail.

Thanks to all of you for support.

Thank-you Abdul for telling your side of the story on The Hamiltonian

27 comments:

  1. Michelle HruschkaDecember 12, 2009

    Welcome Abdul Khan:

    I wish you and your family the best of success in the future.

    You face a challenging road right now and I would like you to know that I stand behind you.

    As an activist on the community, one of the issues I am most passioniate about is "Workplace Bullying".

    [Workplace Bullying].

    I offer this piece of music for your pleasure:

    [Won't Back Down].

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  2. Michelle HruschkaDecember 12, 2009

    Lets try this again

    workplace bullying

    [Workplace bullying].

    Stand my Ground

    [Stand my Ground].

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  3. The following is my letter to Mayor Eisenberger regarding his handling of this matter.

    Mayor Eisenberger,
    I feel it necessary to tell you that I disassociate myself from your position on the allegations made by Abdul Khan. Neither you nor the City Solicitor should be inserting yourselves into the process that will deal with the allegations. Your first responsibility is to the residents of Hamilton and the solicitor's to the Corporation. We all I'm sure feel discomfort for our colleagues on staff about whom serious allegations have been made. The fact is they were not made by an anonymous blogger, in which case I would wholly support their quick public dismissal. In fact the allegations are made by the former director of the department in question. It is our prime duty to determine the veracity of the allegations on behalf of residents, period. When the unfounded allegations against the Downtown Loans program came forward, based on one flimsy piece of evidence which was easily discounted in two subsequent investigations, not a word was said on behalf of or by the implicated staff.....so apparently there is a double standard in view of your public statements. We have already been warned that serious economic damage could result to the City under the water and wastewater proposals. If they are not based on fact, as is alleged, residents will pay a huge price unnecessarily. That is where your focus should be- whether the allegations made by a professional engineer who ran the department are factual or not. If not, the staff will be exonerated and suffer no professional consequences and the complainant's career and credentials will be nullified. Our staff deserves due process as does Mr. Khan. Our responsibility on behalf of residents is to see that due process is given and that the truth comes out.
    Bbob Bratina

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  4. Many thanks to Cal for arranging an interview
    with Mr. Abdul Khan. This is just another ex-
    ample why [I nominated Mr. DiFalco] as Hamilton
    news maker of the year. Our Hall Marks reporter
    wrestled with the story when IT first broke wind
    but has since left the story up in the air. No-
    thing has been proposed for discussion at Hall
    Marks since December 09, and all theSpec Thread
    asks is [will we go see Sarah] Palin at $200/plate.
    The scary thing is there are 51 comments registered
    for this lukewarm serving of our media's fast food.

    IT is getting to the point where I don't even
    bother reading theSpec with my morning coffee.
    I'd rather breakfast with Cal's The Hamiltonian.

    This is the problem with mass media. Thankfully
    Cal DiFalco is a man cut from a different cloth.
    May he become an example to our local media on
    how to serve information to Hamiltonians better.

    Thanks for sharing Abdul and Merry Christmas
    to you and yours.

    And Merry Christmas to Mr. Bob Bratina.
    I saw you speaking at The Holiday Train
    this Dec. 01. Thank You too for sharing.

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  5. The City hierarchy got their comeuppance. They caught the tiger by its tail and now face the consequences. Mr Khan comes across as a sincere, ethical, professional. Not a pushover. He applied for the General Managers position and was given a courtesy interview. After all, the City could not be so brazen as to anoint a non- engineer as head of a public works department without the appearance of a competition. Mr. Khan’s supervisors were mighty miffed that he had the audacity to apply for the position. No wonder the atmosphere turned icy. Mr. Khans qualifications – P.Eng, Masters both in Science and Business Administration and work experience in the private sector – supercedes everyone else in City Management. It is superior to those who have groveled and been slid up the greasy pole that has become the career path of the discredited municipal public service. The citizens of Hamilton deserve nothing else than a thorough enquiry – a judicial enquiry!

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  6. Looks like council is finally getting the drift, when all sorts of lame excuses and outraged denials start flying about, run for cover and the secrecy of In-camera meetings to figure out what to do?

    The "grumbling classes" have spoken, can you read their lips Councillors, and your Honor?

    I'm with Abdul Khan on this one, knowing many of the bit players. Long memories are a good thing, right Cal?

    And it's always better to be on the side of the Angels, politically speaking of course.

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  7. Mr. DiFalco, thank you for this sensitive and interesting interview. Mr. Khan, thank you for sharing your story.

    I tend to believe Mr. Khan's story on several fronts and can personally relate to his experience. I have worked as a senior manager in the public service for many years and can confidently say that buyout bribes happen all the time in order to keep things hush, hush. I respect Mr. Khan for not accepting the bribe. It says a lot about a person’s intent and integrity when they choose to walk away from a large sum of money and remain committed to their morals and oath of being a civil servant.

    I have personally witnessed buyout bribes more times than I would like to admit. It's disgusting, and the sad thing, government employers (at any level) truly believe that they can overpower and get away with it. Unfortunately, most of the times they do get away with it because most people do not have the will, finances, guts or ability to take them on and fight for justice. I admire Mr. Khan for standing up and fighting for the truth. He is a true civil servant and should be commended.

    From what I have read and learned to date, Mr. Khan is well educated, experienced, and has a record of outstanding performance, including with the City of Hamilton. Why then as soon as Mr. Khan expressed his concerns (listed in his allegations) and stood firm on them, was he let go? The city claims that Mr. Khan was surplused due to restructuring. I believe that Mr. Khan was set up for constructive dismissal. How convenient for the city to restructure and eliminate Mr. Khan’s position and promote the accused perpetrator - Mr. Harnum? I also find it interesting that Mr. Harnum’s background (education and work experience) does not even come close to that of Mr. Khan’s. So questions need to be asked, why choose someone less qualified to lead a department? I believe the there are three reasons. 1. Mr. Khan does not play the dirty politics game and do whatever it takes to climb the corporate ladder. Unfortunately, many senior managers reach the top by selling their souls. 2. He was bullied, and being a senior manager had no protection via union or other. 3. Mr. Khan’s skin colour is not the same as Mr. Harnum’s. Isn’t it ironic that this city council is made up of primarily white men when this city is one of the most diverse cities in all of Canada? I would be interested to know just how many non-white senior managers there are in the City of Hamilton. Mr. Khan had the grace not to place the race card. Yet, I believe he has just cause to.

    In addition, I agree with Councilor Bratina in that Mayor Fred should NOT be engaged in this issue. I found Mayor Fred’s remarks in The Spec today to be one-sided. How can the people of Hamilton trust an investigation when the Mayor seems to have already determined the outcome? It makes these processes very questionable and frankly a waste of tax payer’s money. Mr. Kahn’s only hope for a fair shake is through the justice system.

    I also read that Mr. DiIanni (the former Mayor) is supporting Mr. Harnum. Why would he back Harnum prior to any results via an investigation? Why, because they are both cut from the same cloth. Can you say – “the old boys club”. I truly don’t know how these people look in the mirror everyday – disgraceful.

    What this city needs is a clean sweep. With any luck we will see new faces next year running this city, with the exception of Mr. Bratina I hope. Although he is not nor has ever been my councilor, I respect him for many reasons. In my opinion he is the only councilor with integrity. Hell, make him the integrity commissioner.

    Mr. Khan, hang in there. You have the support of many. You are doing the right thing.

    TMA

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  8. This mayor does not have the skills to run this city. His statements will only cause problems for a fair investigation- which of course will cost us money. Khan sounds like he is telling the truth

    R. Peters

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  9. Brian Henley +December 12, 2009

    I fully agree with Councillor Bratina.
    The staff, particularly Mr. Murray, should never have been permitted to speak publicly on this issue at council last Wednesday.
    I do appreciate Councillor Bratina's efforts on this matter at Council.
    While I have been critical of Mr. Bratina in the past, he seems to have grown into his job very well and this is a good case in point.
    By allowing Murray and Harnum to speak on the council floor, it suggests to me that those councillors who voted to allow them to speak showed very poor judgment and have by doing so, tried to color the matter in favour of the city staff instead of trying to start an investigation to get to the bottom of the issue.
    Mr. Khan seems to have tried to address a council committee on this and was rebuffed. That sure seems to be a highly questionable move on the City Clerk's department. And if Mr. Khan is to believed, in the matter of the City Manager's refusal to address the problem with him at an early stage, that would definitely be a black mark on the pereception of Mr. Murray's competence as a bureaucrat.
    This is a serious matter and calls for serious, and fully transparent, investigation, and reporting of the results of the investigation. And it should not take so long to deal with as happened with the Councillor Clark and the tape matter.
    I also do not believe that the City Solicitor is capable of handling anything on this file without prejudice, much less with any competency. An outside lawyer should be hired on contract with this file and this file alone on his plate.
    While some of the matters seem so complex and beyond a layman's understanding, the sale of scrap medal FOR CASH, if indeed this happened, is very suspicious.
    The sum from the sale was not pocket change.
    Was all of the cash fully turned over to city coffers or not? Was any of the money used to entertain staff ?
    For the solicitor to say that he is satisfied there was no wrong-doing because he looked at some ledgers does not satisfy me. Wouldn't the order to receive cash for the scrap metal be an attempt to avoid a paper trail, like a ledger entry?
    Some of the bigger charges may be hard to get a definitive answer on, but this scrap issue could well be the one that is very true, and if it is, very damaging to the individuals involved. Enough for dismissal for sure.
    While I do not know the veracity of Mr. Khan's allegations, many of them certainly do seem plausible given the culture and general attitudes that are only too evident among many of the senior staff in the city administration from my experience.
    Council faces a stern challenge at this point - they have to get to the bottom of this issue quickly and fully transparently --- any attempt to cover up or simply dismiss these issues as those of a disgruntled employee will be very damaging to their own integrity, and their hopes of re-election.

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  10. thanks for the effort in getting this out Cal - thanks Mr.Khan.

    just looked at the posted quote de jour: keep it up Mr.harnum - you are showing the public what a bully you are...you are like an energizer battery - just keep going:) i am standing holding my palms up, trying to evaluate the two men - one threatens with 'amass[ing] a serious amount of legal costs that will need to be paid and they won’t be paid by [him], they will be paid by Mr. Khan' (quote de jour, dec 12)the other states that 'If proven wrong, I commit to publicly and unconditionally apologize to the community, the council, staff and everyone else impacted by this' - now, who has more faith in his respective convictions - hmmmmm...

    i just hope that our public wont give up on the man who stood up for us - risking all what is coming out infront of us - we are behind you Sir - thanks once again!

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  11. Cal- thanks man for getting it straight from the horse's mouth- no bull and no spin. There are too many things in Khans complaint. Some of it is gonna stick. This is the biggest scandal yet.

    Keep doing a great job Cal. I hope the truth comes slammin down like a hammer.,

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  12. TMA asked how many non-white senior managers there are in the City of Hamilton. The answer is none.
    Non-white senior managers is an oxymoron in Hamilton. The City gives lip service to the concept of equal opportunity for all, to diversity, to the merit principle.
    That's why the few of us who are non-white prefer to stay in unionized positions where we have some protection rather than become victims like some before us, the latest being Mr. Khan.

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  13. What is important to the average Hamiltonian
    Internet news hound? Palin Power of course!
    As of this morning, 80 comments appear in
    [The Hamilton Spectator Speakers Corner].
    But what is more interesting than that,
    is Emma Reilly's latest post entitled:
    [Watergate fallout] which appeared yes-
    terday, where IT appears that theSpec
    is positioning ITself behind Mr.Harnum,
    by posting Mr. Porter's email to Mr. Kahn.

    One commenter noted: "i am sure the courageous
    khan will not let us all down. we all stand by you."

    Another says: "I hope Mr. Harnum's legal costs are at
    his own expense and not those of the Hamilton taxpayer.
    The Spec should investigate who is picking up the tab."

    The good news is little is being dis-
    cussed at the Hall Marks right now.
    Cal has risen to the occasion and
    usurped the thunder and lightning
    from Emma and she is "one tired
    city hall reporter." Poo poo:-(

    Great work Cal and many thanks
    to everyone who took the time
    to post a comment here.

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  14. More troubling is the Mayor lashing out at certain members of what the Hamilton Spectator brain trust calls the "Grumbling Classes" over the allegations put forth by Mr. Khan. Personally, I take exception to that. I bet that the turn-out for the next municipal election will be the highest yet. It's the only thing fed-up citizens can do. Get out and vote.

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  15. Michelle HruschkaDecember 13, 2009

    Does anybody out there know what Mr Harnum's credentials actually are? It stated in one of the spec articles that he started as a back hoe operator, so I am curious to know what education he has.

    Does he have say an accounting designation, that would enable him to understand the concepts of budgets, financial statements, accounting practices?

    What about our city manager, what qualifications does he have? On the surface it does not appear that he learned the concepts of human resources, to be able to a leader, a person that would come across as non partisan, a person to make decisions based on facts and not emotion. As Mr Khan stated, he brought foward his concerns to our city manager, which seem to have fallen by the wayside, if he was a true leader, why did he not investigate? Or are personal relations more important then factual documentation?

    We have some pretty nasty people who work for the city at all levels. The bullies, those who think that just because they have a job, a position of authority, they have the right to disrupt people's lives, to treat them like they are dirt, whether they are low income, people of color, immigrants, the list goes on.

    If you file a complaint it goes no where, not unless you keep bugging them or get either a provincial MPP or federal MP's office to make a call.

    An actual experience, when a child was born in a car on the way to the hospital, which was documented in the spec and on CHCH news, the anguish that was caused by the city's clerk office was horrible to say the least.

    The family is still trying to figure out how someone in that department wrote a false comment on the attending doctors paperwork, as the supervisor admitted that they were two different hand writings. Was it because that person had already gotten in trouble for giving out the wrong paperwork, calling the family liars, that children are not born in vehicles, that just does not happen, at least in this rejects mind.

    I'd bet this person is still working for the city, even though they breached the public's trust.

    While the city does have a non violence policy, that policy does little when it comes to workplace bullying or any type of bullying.

    Does the Spectator really investigate into anything? I never see that, I guess that is why many people in the community call it "The Speculator".

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  16. Seems there's more than a few chicken's coming home to roost. No wonder Hamilton is unique?

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  17. Cal- I think you should do some investigative reporting for the Spec.

    Stella

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  18. Here's a little tid-bit of information I found interesting since the Mayor has already chosen sides and order Mr. Barkwell to turn the allegations into a Police investigation that still hasn't officially started. This may explain why.
    --
    In Harnum's libel, there are three items, two (Water Treatment Plant and Lynden) relate to violation of Safe Drinking Water Act, under which the burden of proof is on him and he has to demonstrate that he had taken 'precautionary' approaches to the level of 'beyond reasonable doubt'.

    Libel is a civil litigation and the burden of proof is on defense and the level is 'balance of probabilities'.

    Now it may be relatively easy for someone like Mr. Khan to defend libel, but Harnum would benefit quite a bit more.

    As this libel will take more than two years, Harnum will be able to avoid any charges by MOE under the safe drinking water act, as under the act the charges are to be laid within 2 years.

    The third item in the libel is the scrap issue and police will not get involved if there is litigation going on in courts.

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  19. Mr. Khan's last performance was for 2006? These are annual reviews correct?

    To me, the fact none were provided for 2007 or 2008, is telling of how this department is being run.

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  20. This scandal is an example of why we need to have laws that protect whistleblowers in this country. The dude that caused the scandal was pretty fast to beat a path to his lawyer-cronies in Toronto, where they plot to score large money on top of the money they already scammed from the taxpayers.

    I expect the politicians to drop the ball, just like when they let the murderous Koebel brothers in Walkerton off the hook for their profane actions that lead to misery and death of so many. Politicians only look to what will keep their lifestyle intact, and their cronies in their easy, overpaid jobs - rather than looking at anything that approaches truth and justice.

    Mr. Khan has put much on the line, and I expect he will be afflicted by the rath of the political scum to the highest degree possible, while the crimes that have long gone on in this city continue without even a lull...

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  21. I was completely shocked when I read about this story on CATCH. I even went as far as forwarding the email alert to my friend with the subject line "holy crap!" on it - figured that summed it up nicely. I applaud anyone for standing up and telling the truth but I also can not judge until I've gotten all the information.

    Cal - Thanks for providing us with this interview.

    Mr. Khan - Thank you for participating.

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  22. Apparently I've been put on a short leash by my phantom employer, the Sinister Umbrella Corporation of Hamilton Mountain.

    Therefore, I declare myself to be a toothless municipal watchdog now, arf, arf.

    If the world I'm in get's any smaller I'm going to scream. There, I feel better already.

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  23. I guess "Hollywood Harnum" is on the B list now

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  24. Thankfully there is zero coverage of the affair in today's tree-ware version of the Hamilton Spectator. That leaves it to the "Blog-o-sphere" to ensure promises made, are promises kept.

    And according to Cal's handy-dandy coutdown appliance us electors only have 7, 863 hourts to wait before we get to pass judgement at the ballot box. Something to look forward to.

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  25. What is the matter for you Mark-Alan?
    Cannot you see that [Tiger Woods] and
    [Sarah Palin] is where IT's at?

    You are not being the normal Mr. Public
    Mark-Alan and I suggest you get with
    the program. Get on over and deck
    the halls Mark. Chat with Emma
    about you betcha Sarah. Then
    you can have your say about
    Tiger's wood and you'll feel
    a whole bunch mucha gooder!

    That's Mainstream Media.
    Pure entertainment.
    Get used to IT.

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  26. MIchelle HruschkaDecember 15, 2009

    Hi Abdul: My 82 year mentor, Wey Robinson, told me to send the message that he backs you as well.

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  27. Keep it up .. Khan .. I am being victim of Workplace Bullying and my prayers are with u ... i was being too weak and decided to shut up but my prayers are with you .. u r bold man.. keep it up and I am sure you will get justice like Mehar Arar ... we will together make this wonderful country more great ..

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