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ReplyDeleteAccording to the Municipal Elections Act:
Penalties for contravening the Municipal Elections Act, 1996 have been increased. Candidates who are convicted of contravening certain provisions of the Act also forfeit any office to which they were elected, and are ineligible to run until after the next regular election has taken place.
I'm going to throw this out there for readers, knowing full well I can Google what I'm asking and sieve through the results. Instead, I'm more interested in what YOU have to say.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't living in Canada when 'the DiIanni affair' unfolded. So I'm still very sketchy on the details. Therefore, I'm asking here, in this space,
'What happened, what was it that transpired to so completely -apparently- tar DiIanni that even now, some years removed, the notion of this otherwise capable leader (I'm assuming this, because we are talking about him as a potential candidate) returning is kyboshed by so many?'
We need new candidates, especially someone who can fix Hamilton WITHOUT bankrupting taxpayers via big spending on non productive assets. Fred and Larry do not understand this - they are developers' men. Butani seems unable to get his act together - too much philosophizing/ lecturing. Baldasaro at least is clear on something, drugs, that constitutes a serious problem. The internet is there for all but nothing much seems to be happening.
ReplyDeleteWithout new blood, this election seems destined to make a new low in turnout. Which Fred probably finds comforting.
Bob Innes
The answer is right before our eyes man. First name Cal. Bob, help me twist his arm man. Elvis P
ReplyDeleteSo nobody can actually tell me in their own words what happened with DiIanni? Really?
ReplyDeleteHmm...
You know, there's a big difference between carping about a situation, puffing yourself up, showing umbrage...and being able to discuss, examine, offer suggestions as to how -in practical terms- what needs to be done. And I'm not talking about candidates here, I'm talking about citizens, the voting public.
And it's all rather ironic, me checking back in here for some feedback, as I watch/listen to a documentary about the 'tea-party' movement in the US. Funny, as well; people keep saying 'Vote 'em out! We need fresh blood!' when it seems to me that a) it's a mystery as to where these new candidates are going to be seen coming from, and b) maybe we do get the government we deserve.
So, back to my hijacking of this item: What did DiIanni do? Tell me in a hundred words or less, and explain how this indicates that he isn't fit to be a mayoral candidate.
Thanks in advance.
Mystoneycreek,
ReplyDeleteI'll try to attempt a response, but first let me ask you this rhetorical question:
Even though Mulroney was a capable leader, and its been some years since he left office, would you and would you think the electorate, would want his return?
mystoneycreek: he got caught not reporting all the campaign donations, or should we say irregularities. The rules are well spelled in the municipal elections act.
ReplyDeleteMr DiIanni had a responsiblity to ensure that everything was on the up and up. He did not. If he cannot even manage that, how can we trust him with anything else.
No one is saying he cant run but really given all that is happened, he most likely is wasting his time.
The problem how see things is that the people do not really have a voice anymore, with corporate donations, lobbying, well the voices from the little people have been lost. Here in Hamilton, the job losses have been great, people are struggling.
There were many against the red hill valley expressway, many have been upset about the lister block, it goes on and on.
Mr Di Ianni ran in the last federal election and the people did not vote him in.
I think for the most part, people are losing faith in the political system, as when we look at the voter turnout rates for all three levels, they are low.
One only has to look at the Gulf Of Mexico and one can see truly what the problems are.
At least he had the integrity to plead guilty
ReplyDeleteSay what you will about Larry, he's the only Mayor in recent history, who's been able to coral the heard of cats in council as one cohesivie unit when it came to voting. All those whith high moral standards take a look in the mirror. Hands down Larry would be a better mayor, than the incubment and those currently running.
ReplyDeleteTom. Thats too funny man. He had the integory to pleade guilty. Are you joking man? Thats like saying he was honest enought to admit he robbed you. Hope your joking man. UNCOOL!
ReplyDeleteElvis P. out!
Elvis...taking accountability for his campaign staffs actions is better than having a Mayor that tells his staff to tell 1/2 lies. And why is council muzzling the Integrity Commissioner before the election.
ReplyDeletemystoneycreek,
ReplyDeleteHere is what you asked:
- - On July 10, 2006 Di Ianni was charged under the Provincial Offences Act of Ontario for violating the Municipal Elections Act of Ontario.[4] On August 24, 2006, he became the first Ontario Mayor to be convicted of violating the Act pleading guilty to six charges related to accepting inappropriate campaign donations. He'd been charged with 41 offences but plea-bargained to six guilty counts.
PJM:
If you think a city is about suburbs and sprawl, then Larry is your man. If you think a city starts at the heart and beats outward, then Fred's your man. The two candidates have very distinct views on Hamilton and what it means to them.
Tom. Your right abiout that but your wrong about Dianni. There's only BS. There's no good or bad BS tom. Its all bad. If you dont get that, you don't get it period. Not cool bud. Not cool.
ReplyDeleteElvis P. Out
Having the "integrity to plead guilty" is an oxymoron. Integrity means never having to plead guilty.
ReplyDeleteI hope Elvis and Anonymous then enjoy 4 more years of Mr.Integrity Mayor Fred.
ReplyDeleteTom , 2 wrongs dont make a right. And we got two wrongs.
ReplyDeleteElvis P.
Until Fred is charged with an indictable offense, I'd say he's ahead in the integrity department.
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