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Sunday, June 5, 2016

Episode 7 of "As Hamilton Twists and Turns"

In this espisode of "As Hamilton Twists and Turns", the liar, liar pants on fire, episode, we find Clr. Terry Whitehead releasing a detailed response to questions posed by The Hamiltonian regarding his top LRT concerns and other LRT related matters.

The Hamiltonian immediately came under fire by a select few, for simply asking the questions, while Clr. Whitehead was flooded with objections and counter arguments to his responses.

The whole thing continued to spiral out of control via social media, culminating in Clr. Matthew Green not calling Clr. Whitehead a liar, but stating "I'm not calling @terrywhitehead a liar...but it appears he's a "stranger to the truth" on LRT."

Just prior to that tweet, the veteran Councillor tweeted to Clr, Green "the truth will prevail! not a good way to get councillors to support your point of view. Good way to alienate however."

Meanwhile, The Hamiltonian's Perspectives Virtual Panel is preparing to weigh in on the topic, featuring people like Ryan McGreal, Herman Turkstra, Marvin Caplin, John Treen and others.. .

Stay tuned as "As Hamilton Twists and Turns" continues to twist and turn with this story.....


Missed Episode 6? Click here to read it. 

28 comments:

  1. AnonymousJune 05, 2016

    Holding out for a day when the "twist" is beat journalism — so that, for example, Hamilton Police Services doesn't just get inspected in a single blog post and then given a pass for multiple years. There is a great deal of civic illiteracy afoot in Hamilton and I daresay that the framing here (as hammy melodrama) threatens to compound the cynicism and apathy. In this particular case the reality is that it is, as the mayor has stated, a generational infrastructure investment. Not a "soap opera."

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    1. AnonymousJune 05, 2016

      thank you. i wonder why such a serious city changing event is treated in what i consider a comical frivolous and semi dismissive attitude.

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    2. The Hamiltonian AdminJune 06, 2016

      For those of you who may be new to The Hamiltonian, please understand that this style of presentation does not seek to substitute the accounts and examinations we ordinarily publish. It is a light hearted approach that nonetheless finds its content based on recent news. We understand the importance of finding the right transit solution(s) in Hamilton and thus have made it a point to cover this from all sides.

      The Hamiltonian Admin

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  2. AnonymousJune 05, 2016

    Teresa. I think this series is a delight. It is funny and yet spot on.
    "The Hamiltonian immediately came under fire by a select few, for simply asking the questions"- I think that;s terrible. Don't be dissuaded. Everyone knows that if you even dare to ask a question about LRT, you instantly become an enemy./ No wonder lRT is losing ground.

    TR

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    1. I have read all of the "As Hamilton Twists and Turns" series on different topics. It's light, biouncy and informative. And it's also not the only thing you do. So keep up the great work. I am not surprised that the Hamiltonian worries some. It is a tastemaker and, in my assessment, more neutral than The Spec and certainly a lot more unbiased than RTH.

      I really wish you folks expanded.
      Sorce

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  3. AnonymousJune 06, 2016

    Some people don't have a sense of humour. ;-(

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  4. "I'm not calling @terrywhitehead a liar...but it appears he's a "stranger to the truth" on LRT."" Oh, that's rich. You can't write this stuff.
    Shawn

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  5. I am not calling Green divisive or immature but....when the dust settles, we must find a way to express our appreciation to Matthew and Sam for their efforts on this file. We wouldn't be right here without them. Bravo

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  6. AnonymousJune 06, 2016

    "I'm not calling @terrywhitehead a liar..." liar? in this presentation, there are several instances where terry "doesnt tell the truth". what do you call someone that doesnt tell the truth?

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  7. Satire that informs without stooping to personal is wonderful. I'm betting the complainants come from someone who embraces a more caustic style so long as it agrees with their positions

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    1. in my house, while relaxing and enjoying a little role play, if someone tells a fib we call it an "orangemike" an if you are caught telling a real whopper it escalates to a "redmike" Baloney, by degrees.

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    2. AnonymousJune 07, 2016

      Keep doing what you do Teresa. It is rumbling across city hall and across the city.

      Cheers

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  8. AnonymousJune 06, 2016

    "How are you dealing with letters of support for LRT, that are coming from certain interest groups" my unsolicited advice to the hamiltonian admin, as i am taking them at their word "We understand the importance of finding the right transit solution(s) in Hamilton and thus have made it a point to cover this from all side" the list of organizations and entities that support lrt in hamilton is well known. or should be. the heads of macmaster and mohawk. the chamber of commerce. the board of trade. unions like liuna. builders like darko vranich. numerous accredited responsible organizations representing professionals like architects and city planners and transpo engineers. almost a dozen neighborhood associations. so you think that "interest groups" is the most accurate way to describe the support for lrt in hamilton? i know there are individuals opposed to lrt. i read there comments daily. perhaps as many suspect, the anti lrt individuals are simply too few in numbers to organize. anyway, since to date they are simply individuals we wont call them a "interest group". if there was one single group opposed to lrt, an if that group wrote a letter against lrt i have yet to hear of such group or see such a letter, here or elsewhere.

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    1. The Hamiltonian AdminJune 06, 2016

      Interest groups is a generic catch all phrase and in our view, has been used appropriately and without bias.

      We continue to do our best to bring all sides of this issue to the forefront including reaching out to people such as Ryan McGreal and Chris Higgens.

      We will not be responding, as we have chosen not to do via twitter, to repeated granular criticisms from some people on our coverage. We continue to do our level best to engage all sides in discussion.

      Should you have further concerns, please email us at admin@thehamiltonian.info
      The Hamiltonian Admin

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    2. AnonymousJune 06, 2016

      thanks for the reply.

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    3. AnonymousJune 06, 2016

      @ Anonymous. Relax. Your nitpicking and critique of the Hamiltonian is becoming quite tiresome. I can appreciate your frustration in the turn of events, but the sharing of information and opinions is always educational and might lead to garnering support. Anonymous City of Hamilton Girl

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    4. The Hamiltonian AdminJune 06, 2016

      Thanks to both of you and thanks for using a handle. We hope all anonymous posters adopt a handle of some sort, to keep the conversations more intelligible.

      The Hamiltonian Admin

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    5. AnonymousJune 06, 2016

      I have not seen the article with Chris Higgins. Where is it? Thanks in advance.

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    6. The Hamiltonian AdminJune 06, 2016

      We sent Mr. Higgins a few questions. He has advised that he would rather wait to answer them.
      The Hamiltonian Admin

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  9. AnonymousJune 06, 2016

    I believe that Mathew Green needs to mature as a politician.
    Anon222

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  10. AnonymousJune 08, 2016

    the hamilton halton home builders association released a letter re-affirming their support of the lrt as currently planned and presently paid for. last week it was the hamilton burlington society of architects supporting lrt as presently planned and currently paid for. if you still need more confirmation that the lrt corridor on king is going to bring much needed financial growth and investment in hamilton here is more proof. i know deningers and black forest are concerned about their bottom line. i understand that. no one wants to have existing customers inconvenienced. what they should be thinking about is that currently they dont have very many customers living in a three klick radius that shop there. the area is very low income, with the majority of residents living close to the bone. within 5 years there will be thousands and thousands of new residents with disposable income that have PURCHASED homes and condos in the immediate area. it to would be worried about my current customer base that is very much a car base and a hsr base. but i would be excited about thousands of bike riding dog owning lrt riding foodie dual income no kids hipsters moving to within walking distance of my stores.

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  11. AnonymousJune 08, 2016

    After more than a decade, the secret meetings between the city and the Hamilton Halton Home Builders Association are being replaced by gatherings that will be open to the public. The “HHHBA / City of Hamilton Liaison Committee” has met multiple times a year since 2002, but the new general manager of economic development and planning announced this week that this arrangement is being restructured.

    “I just wanted to advise [planning] committee of some changes we’ve made to the structure of our liaison group with the Hamilton Halton Home Builders Association,” Jason Thorne told the first planning committee meeting of the new council term. “We had in the past been meeting on an approximately monthly basis with the group. Going forward in consultation with the home builders group, … we’re going to have twice per year a public forum with the development industry where we would have our staff present on some key issues that are of interest to the development community, and presentations from the development industry as well in a forum that’s open to any member of the public to attend.”

    Thorne said the first forum will likely be in February and that city staff will be “meeting shortly with the home builders to devise an agenda for that.” Appointed to the general manager position just last summer, Thorne also announced other changes including converting the east-west orientation of the planning division into three sections – urban, suburban and rural teams that will all report to director of planning Steve Robichaud.

    The existence of the liaison committee came to light nearly four years ago when a participating councillor publicly urged more of her colleagues to attend its unpublicized meetings. Senior staff revealed that the chair and vice chair of the planning committee were traditionally part of the liaison group, and encouraged others to attend. There was an enthusiastic response to this request from several councillors until Brad Clark denounced the secretive gatherings as “a cosy relationship” that was illegal if they included councillors.

    That was from a CATCH article.

    The Hamilton Halton home builders association are interested in development. Its how they make their living. Don't necessarily equate that with the common good. that would be naiive.

    AnonMe

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    1. AnonymousJune 08, 2016

      do you know why the owners of newmans apparel, martins bowling, deninngers, thompsons pawnbroker and the black forest inn are being referenced constantly in the media as examples of long time successful business on king? because between queenston and downtown these are about it when it comes to
      long time successful business on king. 50 years ago king street was a vibrant busy mixed commercial residential street with good stores and well paid workers and middle class neighbourhoods. well for 50 years its has decayed and gone to rot. we can all agree on that cant we? much of the residential properties are shabby and in disrepair. they bring in marginal tax fir the city. they are occupied by people with little or no disposable income. this is not good for the prospect of new business. very little if any new commercial development has happened between queenston traffic circle and wellington for 50 years. hundreds of middle to high end stores have closed up in the past 50 years with no new middle or high end business to take their place. yes the hhhba is going t profit from the rebuild along the lrt corridor. as are the 100,000 plus residents that presently live within walking distance of it. and the new shop owners will profit. and they will hire people. and new business's will lease space there and they will profit. and they will hire people. whats wrong with that?

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    2. hypothetical claptrap?

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    3. AnonymousJune 09, 2016

      you must be referencing your own position on lrt. what i wrote is verifiable.

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    4. well please do, it would likely prove entertaining watching anyone verify outcomes to a project that does not yet exist.

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    5. AnonymousJune 09, 2016

      the project exists. planned and built by trained professionals (not jim graham) approved by all levels of city hall (not allan taylor) voted on, approved three times, and submitted for a funding request to the province as the plan of choice by city council (not socre) approved for funding by the premier kathleen wynne (not sylvia the hockey mom) the project has the approval and backing and support of each and every professional accredited planner builder architect academic builder educator in the city. there is not one civic group that is opposed. that is a project. it will go forward. cause who is against it again? terry whithead chad collins and some people that comment on the media forums. all aboard! en votuire!

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