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Friday, October 9, 2009

"Happy Talk" ?


Having read The Spectator’s coverage of a recent breakfast panel discussion in which Mayor Eisenberger and others discussed the challenges facing Hamilton, I am beginning to wonder about the value added, from such discussions. You may recall that in a recent interview in The Hamiltonian, Harry Stinson said:

It is far easier to sit on a Committee or Task Force or go to “Summits” (featuring speakers from out of town) or organize more bloody golf tournaments…. then give each other pretentious awards for all they have done for the community. (Of course, a big banquet is required for this process, attended by the usual suspects giving the same self-righteous speeches).

I wasn’t at the breakfast panel meeting but from what has been reported in The Spec (see story here), it seems like it may have been more “happy talk”, if it weren’t for a pointed question posed by Doug Barber.

"I came here to find out if Hamilton is winning or losing," said the co-founder and former CEO of Gennum Corporation, who's also an engineering professor at McMaster University."I heard a lot of cheerleading and that people are playing well together as a team but I'm disappointed that I don't know how we're doing. We're either winning, losing or treading water, but I don't know."

This appears to have led to a downward spiral to the conversation. Perhaps Mr. Barber’s question may have been too simplistic but it did appear to bring things into perspective. When I question the value added of these discussions, I think that walking away feeling deflated is as much destructive as the “happy talk” syndrome that Harry seems to have described .

I think it would be better for the Mayor to select a topic(s) and then charge an individual(s) to lead a solution to it. For example: Come back and present a plan as to how we can solve graffiti in our city ( I picked this because it is fairly tangible- there are many things to pick from). The person would then have to formulate a plan, engage support, come back and present it, validate it and then, most importantly, execute it with attached outcome measures and in a declared timeline.

What do people think?

10 comments:

  1. Quest for the truthOctober 09, 2009

    Poverty is a real issue in this community and it does no good, when the focus is on big box store developments in which these jobs pay only minimum wage, offer no benefits or the chance to save for retirement.

    Costs keep going up and well the cycle just continues. More people could find themselves homeless, relying on a social safety net that does not reflect the true cost to live, being sent to many agencies that adhere to the oppressive policies of Ontario Works, which deny working people their rights as workers. It is a never ending cycle.

    I wonder if instead of the high placed people speaking at these types of events, that they should include other groups, grassroots groups which speak for others. The social safety net is failing people, the many programs are fruitless and well if there are no jobs, well people are left within their own devices to survive.

    People wonder why homelessness, crime and other social ills are in the forefront.

    Sometimes those who have, seem to ignore those who do not have, and then chastice or complain because they do not like the symptons they are seeing, yet they are the cause, when they close their eyes and ignore the very policies that are contributing to the problem.

    I know the slogan is the best place to raise a child, but if you do not help the parents of those children, then what is the point.

    A poverty industry exists in this community.

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  2. Sounds like just another "hot-air" convention to me. I remember the good old days when Mr. Ryder had a hand in amalgamating the "new" city of Hamilton. I honestly thought the local politicians had my best interests at heart. Some of them still can't get over it. In my oppinion, Hamilton needs to elect a whole new council, wipe the slate clean.

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  3. I think if they did that, nobody would ever come back. they'd have to actually DO something

    Elvis P.

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  4. Yves DubeauOctober 10, 2009

    I certainly agree with Harry Stinson, this event was it not a breakfast with the Mayor? Regardless this event had an agenda and certainly wasn't to dispel the fact that we are losing the economic battle with our traditional economy. These events are not to announce bad news and I wonder if Mayor Fred would have answered the same as Mr Ryder. At what type of events are these situations addressed? Does somebody knows or does this go on without been honestly studied. It appears that Hamilton is always on the cusp of the next big and beautiful thing, it does not happen because nobody's in charge or accountable to make it happen. It really makes me wonder if our Mayor is really in the know.

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  5. Q4TT made a profound Tram-Law statement, "Poverty is a real issue in this community and it does no good, when the focus is on big box store developments in which these jobs pay only minimum wage, offer no benefits or the chance to save for retirement."

    After Doug Barber's statement, panelist Marvin Ryder,
    a marketing professor at McMaster's DeGroote School
    of Business, was the first to respond.
    "I feel like we're losing," he said.

    MAW declares, "Some of them still can't get over it."

    Ryder says, "To put it in perspective, if all of the different Walmarts proposed for Hamilton are built, there's a good chance Walmart will be the third largest private-sector employer here."

    Our wise proselyte again propounds, "I wonder if instead of the high placed people speaking at these types of events, that they should include other groups, grassroots groups which speak for others."

    From my own sanctum sanctorum, there stirs
    a plain and simple truth; that grassroots
    don't mix well with that class of suits.

    Fortunately, we have a place where folks
    from all walks of life may share opinions
    in an open forum where our class distinctions
    do not appear too obvious. I can sit here at my
    keyboard in my underwear and a cup of home-brewed
    wake-me-up at 5am and still feel like I am dressed to
    the 9's at a gourmet event and my precious Mercedes is
    safe with the valet. I can't look up or down at anyone
    seated around Cal's round table of hallowed Hamiltonians.

    If only our leadership in a similar fashion,
    could lose their fear at entering into the
    blogosphere. Cal's been doing IT and he's
    got IT right with elections forthcoming
    and media spotlight. But let's not be
    distracted on this Thanksgiving Day,
    let's rejoice with family and with
    them let us pray:

    Good food good meat good God let's eat!

    Happy Thanksgiving My Fellow Hamiltonians

    A lot of thanks and giving
    http://thespec.com/News/Local/article/651241
    AN OFFENSIVE AGAINST HUNGER
    http://thespec.com/News/Local/article/651112

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  6. I agree.
    Too much talk and not enough focus on outcomes.

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  7. The Plain and SimpleOctober 10, 2009

    Mr. DiFalco wrote

    I think it would be better for the Mayor to select a topic(s) and then charge an individual(s) to lead a solution to it. For example: Come back and present a plan as to how we can solve graffiti in our city ( I picked this because it is fairly tangible- there are many things to pick from). The person would then have to formulate a plan, engage support, come back and present it, validate it and then, most importantly, execute it with attached outcome measures and in a declared timeline.

    What do people think?

    What do I think? I think YOU should be the mayor!

    The Plain and Simple

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  8. Quest for the truthOctober 10, 2009

    Re: Walmart

    I found this article about the sweatshop conditions growing across the US and that included Walmart. Please see "Addendum on Wal-Mart", at the bottom of the article.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15605

    While this next article is off topic, I think that it should be a wake up call for people. Everyone needs to say a prayer for this gentleman.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/708458--fiorito-from-home-to-shelter-to-hospital

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  9. Plain and simple wants Cal for Mayor,

    Cal has not expressed any political aspirations
    that I am aware of. Cal appears from this side
    of the screen to be a man already well placed
    behind the scenes. Why compromise that position?

    Mr. Dubeau asks, "At what type
    of events are these situations ad-
    dressed? Does somebody knows or does
    this go on without been honestly studied?"

    Mr. Dubeau thinks out loudly,
    "It really makes me wonder if
    our Mayor is really in the know."

    But by far the most important thing
    Yves said was, "we are losing the econ-
    omic battle with our traditional economy."

    T R A D I T I O N, tra-di-tion!

    Yves, we're just fiddlers on the roof.
    What we need is a member of Hamilton's
    Media Advisory Council to understand
    that what Tram-Law allows is in fact
    racism to the worst degree. We're
    not allowed to call a shovel a
    spade if IT is a multinational
    horizontal and vertical, near
    monopolistic corporation that
    undermines local economies.
    Because IT provides JOBS!

    Please show some respect for our moderator.

    If we do not like where these postings
    lead us to, we can always head over to
    the specthread speaker's corner and
    comment on noble Obama prized pieces.
    That's where the media turkey stuffs
    pressure cooked Hamiltonians with
    topics debased in IT's own juices.

    Who says there's no value in
    the staleness of our daily bread?

    I'm stuffed.

    Stick a fork in IT
    http://thespec.com/News/Business/article/648188

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  10. Plain and SimpleOctober 12, 2009

    WRCU2, you said Plain and simple wants Cal for Mayor,

    Cal has not expressed any political aspirations
    that I am aware of. Cal appears from this side
    of the screen to be a man already well placed
    behind the scenes. Why compromise that position?


    Ever asked the guy? Maybe with a little encouragement we may get someone like him to step up. Everyone always says we dont have good people stepping up and we get the same ole charcters. Its a wonder. We need to approach people and support them!

    Its Plain and simple

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